Harder take off

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What do you think about it?

I want this challenge
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I want it as easy as it is
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Risen
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Harder take off

Post by Risen »

Currently it's too easy to get some height in my opinion, especially by taking off slightly before the end of inrun. Even if I try to make the jump bad, it takes off with the constant, large power. The only hill I've got real problems is Garmisch. If there was a point on the inrun, from which take off power would be the biggest, then decreasing each cm away from it. An elite "fit in" game.

Just please consider it.

The zones of take off power, colours are not to be included.
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Last edited by Risen on 27 Feb 2012, 14:39, edited 1 time in total.
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SuperAdo111
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Re: Harder take off

Post by SuperAdo111 »

In Planica is too easy :3 I want this like in some games,some arcade games :D
cruzzz112
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Re: Harder take off

Post by cruzzz112 »

No. Now is good.
Fingi
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Re: Harder take off

Post by Fingi »

@Risen: That take off would be way too early... (if you would start your takeoff in the green zone)

And I agree with cruzzz112, it's good as it is.
Risen
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Re: Harder take off

Post by Risen »

Fingi wrote:@Risen: That take off would be way too early... (if you would start your takeoff in the green zone)

And I agree with cruzzz112, it's good as it is.
This is from my Planica record replay. I started to take off in the highlighted moment so he took off with his feet centimeters before the end of inrun :)
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Nie popieram małyszomanii, a tym bardziej żadnej stochomanii.
Albo kibicujesz wszystkim skoczkom, albo rodakom, albo ssiesz ;)
"Czułeś się kiedyś jak Hula?" -Woody Allen
TPo
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Re: Harder take off

Post by TPo »

Risen wrote:
Fingi wrote:@Risen: That take off would be way too early... (if you would start your takeoff in the green zone)

And I agree with cruzzz112, it's good as it is.
This is from my Planica record replay. I started to take off in the highlighted moment so he took off with his feet centimeters before the end of inrun :)
That's actually too early :wink:
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AlexRollercoaster
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Re: Harder take off

Post by AlexRollercoaster »

The Take-Off must be later so like this:

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Maybe it is a bit too late, but on this Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBHXA4U ... re=related

On 0:30

Or on this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvelNcS6 ... re=related

On 0:44
dzamper
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Re: Harder take off

Post by dzamper »

It's because IRL the actual take-off (I mean gain of the upward momentum) doesn't happen when legs are straight, but a bit earlier.
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Risen
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Re: Harder take off

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TPo wrote:
Risen wrote:This is from my Planica record replay. I started to take off in the highlighted moment so he took off with his feet centimeters before the end of inrun :)
That's actually too early :wink:
Good to know mate, thanks :? This may prove that it's currently too easy. I jumped 228m with definitely bad end of the jump (panic mode on).

Anyway, who, if not mr J. knows the best where's the right moment? :P
Mine is just a proposal to make the take off power stricter, according to the right moment.
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Re: Harder take off

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i think he even doesnt know that :wink:
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That's gotta hurt (sorry Zmaster for that fake ;))
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Post by Jussi Koskela »

skiflyer11 wrote:i think he even doesnt know that :wink:
I haven't hard-coded any optimal time for the takeoff. It's the physics engine that calculates the outcome.
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Jussi Koskela wrote:
skiflyer11 wrote:i think he even doesnt know that :wink:
I haven't hard-coded any optimal time for the takeoff. It's the physics engine that calculates the outcome.
that was exactly what i meant :wink:
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That's gotta hurt (sorry Zmaster for that fake ;))
Risen
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Re: Harder take off

Post by Risen »

So, doable and necessary?
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