
Remove this bug
Remove this bug
I recently jumped 199 meters in Romania in the WC today, and I didnt qualify, but a guy that jumped 198 and crashed qualified!!!!! This rule has to be removed ,as it makes no sense at all 

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Re: Remove this bug
It's not a bug but an official rule which is also applied by FIS.Mystikal wrote:I recently jumped 199 meters in Romania in the WC today, and I didnt qualify, but a guy that jumped 198 and crashed qualified!!!!! This rule has to be removed ,as it makes no sense at all
Re: Remove this bug
so if Malysz jumps 110 meters and is on 33th place, and Jacobsen jumps 111 meters is on 31st, Malysz goes trough to the second round? never saw that ruleJussi Koskela wrote:It's not a bug but an official rule which is also applied by FIS.Mystikal wrote:I recently jumped 199 meters in Romania in the WC today, and I didnt qualify, but a guy that jumped 198 and crashed qualified!!!!! This rule has to be removed ,as it makes no sense at all

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Re: Remove this bug
Yes, if Malysz crashes and the longest jump on that round is no more than 122 meters.Mystikal wrote: so if Malysz jumps 110 meters and is on 33th place, and Jacobsen jumps 111 meters is on 31st, Malysz goes trough to the second round? never saw that rule
I've read through the rules now, and I can't say that Jussi is wrong since the rules are formulated very easily. However, I do believe that the rules could be interpreted differently.
This is what the rules say:
01. - 219m - 210p - q
02. - 218m - 209p - q
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49. - 201m - 190p - q
50. - 200m - 189p - q
51. - 199m - 188p -
[...]
68. - 198m - 165p - q*
It wouldn't be sane of FIS to make a rule that keeps the one if the 51st position to go through because he didn't crash...
Edit: Changed from big Q to small q for the top two since the rule says that you qualify if you jump (and fall) within 90 % of the longest jump of those who have to qualify, not within 90 % of the longest jump overall. And for those who are unfamiliar with Q/q: Big Q means that the jumper was prequalified since he's in the top 15 in the World Cup Standings. Small q means that the jumper qualified in a regular way.
This is what the rules say:
But what Mystikal says, just can't be right. Here is a similar scenarioA jumper who has reached 90 % of the maximum length of the jumpers who have to be qualified but has a fall, has the right to participate in the competition in addition to the 50.
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A jumper, who has reached in the first round 90 % of the maximum length but had a fall, has the right to participate in the final in addition to the first 30.
01. - 219m - 210p - q
02. - 218m - 209p - q
[...]
49. - 201m - 190p - q
50. - 200m - 189p - q
51. - 199m - 188p -
[...]
68. - 198m - 165p - q*
It wouldn't be sane of FIS to make a rule that keeps the one if the 51st position to go through because he didn't crash...
Edit: Changed from big Q to small q for the top two since the rule says that you qualify if you jump (and fall) within 90 % of the longest jump of those who have to qualify, not within 90 % of the longest jump overall. And for those who are unfamiliar with Q/q: Big Q means that the jumper was prequalified since he's in the top 15 in the World Cup Standings. Small q means that the jumper qualified in a regular way.