Gibbon - #FIX_Gibbon

[Garbaty2137]

Dear Mr. Jussi Koskela,

We are a team representing the DSJ PL Community, which consists of players of the DSJ4 game. We would like to inform you about a bug in the game, which is called "Gibbon". This bug occurs when a player uses a special combination of keys, which allows them to achieve an illegal, significantly higher score than would be possible under normal conditions.

We are aware that software can contain certain bugs and faulty elements, but we are confident that your team will do everything in its power to fix this bug in the next update. We would be grateful for a prompt response and updating of the game to ensure fair playing conditions for all players.

We also want to draw your attention to the fact that using game bugs to achieve a better score is illegal and unfair to other players who do not have access to such a bug. Therefore, we ask you to take appropriate steps to punish players who use this bug and to consider strengthening game security to avoid similar issues in the future.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. We look forward to a prompt response and the implementation of necessary actions. If necessary, we are ready to help in any way we can.

Sincerely,

DSJ PL, Community team

[Aleks_124]

gibbon is since 2013, and if it will be fixed, all records would be gone.

[Jacek Michalak]

XD cool cheat, I understand that in the nickname 2137 it's some serious team. Gibbon is not a scam, legal thing, no boosters are used. This is from 2013 what is jussi to do with it?

[Xinitiao]

Nice chatbot use in the OP, too bad it doesnt describe gibbon at all

[Jussi Koskela]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

[Xinitiao]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

IMO it looks very realistic (except the ski falling off), maybe you can release a version with a checkmark "gibbon on/off" to let players get used to it and just have two record lists, just like it was in dsj3? You could create gibbon on/off online servers too (it'd also give some juicy data about how much advantage gibbon gives (or doesnt) to the player using it )

Or just for fun, the version in the video looks like it would be fun to play around with I remember some time ago, before 1.7 players made videos similar to this on youtube, using CE to produce behavior similar to that.

[Dangerous Dave]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

If it's working reliably, then I see no reason not to implement it. As Xinitiao said, there could be two kinds of record lists/online servers, if that's possible.
Gibbon is unrealistic and horrible to look at, I think most players would appreciate if it disappeared, even the ones who use it. Removing it would benefit the game and elevate it to a higher level once again.

[Aleks_124]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

Its nice to see gibbon removing, but recorded video makes me laugh too

[Aleks_124]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

With replays - Just delete replays with gibbon

[Aleks_124]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

And second, with "existing gibbon for 10 years" - On your place, I will not be afraid, because it will be last cheat to eliminate

[Lechoo]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

After 12 years you have come to a conslusion that "anti-gibbon" system is possible to be implemented into the game? Very fast reaction

For 12 years I did nothing about it and now "it has existed for so long" that there is no sense to change anything

[Aleks_124]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

After 12 years you have come to a conslusion that "anti-gibbon" system is possible to be implemented into the game? Very fast reaction

For 12 years I did nothing about it and now "it has existed for so long" that there is no sense to change anything

I did know gibbon for long time, but I didn't except that recorded video by Jussi was too good

[Milosz Michalak]

I did earlier a quick experiment how the game would look with anti-gibbon system:
https://www.mediamond.fi/images/dsj4-anti-gibbon.mp4

So, technically it might be possible to prevent the usage of gibbon style, but it has existed for so long, that changing the rules at this point might not be very reasonable. Analyzing all the current PB replays would also require huge amount of computing power.

If it's working reliably, then I see no reason not to implement it. As Xinitiao said, there could be two kinds of record lists/online servers, if that's possible.
Gibbon is unrealistic and horrible to look at, I think most players would appreciate if it disappeared, even the ones who use it. Removing it would benefit the game and elevate it to a higher level once again.

It's even a good idea

[Jussi Koskela]

With replays - Just delete replays with gibbon

There are millions of replays to verify...

[Aleks_124]

With replays - Just delete replays with gibbon

There are millions of replays to verify...

if you want to, I'll help with this