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The profile of this hills is completely broken! It's definetly not realistic and you can jump over HS with 1st gate (-5)!

You mean mine Sapporo or Jussi Sapporo?

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 17:43 You mean mine Sapporo or Jussi Sapporo?

Actually both, but I posted it on Custom Hills forum so I mean your hill

woznyy1337 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 20:12

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 17:43 You mean mine Sapporo or Jussi Sapporo?

Actually both, but I posted it on Custom Hills forum so I mean your hill

Well my hill uses parameteres from hill cross-section so it's the most realistic you can get. The problem with the lowest gate is just a problem of the game. Jussi skis are faster than those in real life that's why this problem exists. And it's not just a problem for Sapporo.

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 21:06

woznyy1337 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 20:12

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 17:43 You mean mine Sapporo or Jussi Sapporo?

Actually both, but I posted it on Custom Hills forum so I mean your hill

Well my hill uses parameteres from hill cross-section so it's the most realistic you can get. The problem with the lowest gate is just a problem of the game. Jussi skis are faster than those in real life that's why this problem exists. And it's not just a problem for Sapporo.

Ahh okay, I got it. Also have you ever tried to do a hill complex like Grzegorz did with Zhangjiakou?

In real ski jumping, before Okurayama got a new dhill profile, there was such a possibility to jump much over hill size from low startgates. Also even with new profile quite low startgates can be used with even a bit weaker front wind than in game.

woznyy1337 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 22:03

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 21:06

woznyy1337 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 20:12

Actually both, but I posted it on Custom Hills forum so I mean your hill

Well my hill uses parameteres from hill cross-section so it's the most realistic you can get. The problem with the lowest gate is just a problem of the game. Jussi skis are faster than those in real life that's why this problem exists. And it's not just a problem for Sapporo.

Ahh okay, I got it. Also have you ever tried to do a hill complex like Grzegorz did with Zhangjiakou?

Never tried it's complicated to do and most of the time effects are not worth the time and effort. Mostly due to limitation of the game. We sadly cant customize terrain in Z-axis something that would help a lot in complex making

Maciejo-96 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 01:19 In real ski jumping, before Okurayama got a new dhill profile, there was such a possibility to jump much over hill size from low startgates. Also even with new profile quite low startgates can be used with even a bit weaker front wind than in game.

It seems to me that you are lost somewhere not only you, but the whole Gorisek team and still you try with a great computer game do some simulator "perfectly mapped hills" which has absolutely nothing to do with playability, and this is probably the most important thing.By decisions, that team Gorisek did there are posts like this one, and your argument the only one, is repetition "because that's how it is in real life", not true the hill you are talking about,it's broken has tons unnecessary railing, it is impossible to hit perfect take off,lags (when V-sync OFF), anyway i will not mention about new Oslo, which is really well mapped looks fabulous, and her arguments end there "because the game Deluxe Ski Jumping 4" it is not adapted to such hills, game came into existence at the turn of 2011/2012, till today had an assumption playability and simplicity, and now it is the other way around "no playability and advanced designs", it went wrong and I don't know if it can be reversed yet.

SoBo wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 11:39 "because the game Deluxe Ski Jumping 4" it is not adapted to such hills

Maybe it isn't, Deluxe Ski Jump 4 certainly is

But seriously, no one forces you to play on real hills if you dont want to, there are tons of hills to choose from and you can play only on the ones you like. Don't expect to like every hill and you'll be happier with the state of DSJ

Xinitiao wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 18:01

SoBo wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 11:39 "because the game Deluxe Ski Jumping 4" it is not adapted to such hills

Maybe it isn't, Deluxe Ski Jump 4 certainly is

But seriously, no one forces you to play on real hills if you dont want to, there are tons of hills to choose from and you can play only on the ones you like. Don't expect to like every hill and you'll be happier with the state of DSJ

I will not answer you, you are not on my level

Br.SoBo

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 21:06

woznyy1337 wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 20:12

Patryk Szajer wrote: ↑20 Feb 2022, 17:43 You mean mine Sapporo or Jussi Sapporo?

Actually both, but I posted it on Custom Hills forum so I mean your hill

Well my hill uses parameteres from hill cross-section so it's the most realistic you can get. The problem with the lowest gate is just a problem of the game. Jussi skis are faster than those in real life that's why this problem exists. And it's not just a problem for Sapporo.

So could you just lower the default start gate? It's frustrating when you jump every time over the HS even with 0m/s.

It will reset global hill records on this hill. I don't think it would be suitable for hill author and lots of players.

Also, not on every hill HS has to be hard to achieve

Xinitiao wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 21:42 Also, not on every hill HS has to be hard to achieve

Of course, but in real life jury would immediatly lower the gate so that's why it's not realistic to jump that far.

woznyy1337 wrote: ↑28 Feb 2022, 01:19

Xinitiao wrote: ↑27 Feb 2022, 21:42 Also, not on every hill HS has to be hard to achieve

Of course, but in real life jury would immediatly lower the gate so that's why it's not realistic to jump that far.

Not if it's the top jumpers jumping afaik nowadays they try to set the gate so that the best jumpers land around hs. DSJ is set in a time when they didnt have that option though, which gave us competitions like planica 2005

Also, irl the gap from 1st to 30th place on large hills is more than a few meters, unlike in competitive DSJ.