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Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 00:15
by KamilStoch
Please Jussi... listen. I would like to see game back in days of DSJ3. There should be dynamic wind, and probably dynamic gate too during competitions. And stronger possible wind. Peaks 3-4m. Game is not realistic as we see, in real life, there is not this stabile wind in 98% of competitions. Also they need to change gate many times.

Then Jussi, the game lacks more flying styles. Would be awesome to have them here as in real life!

And then, please block slowmotion too, as you did in DSJ3 1,7,0, slowdown didnt work in WIN XP. I think that's not a big problem to update clock error thingy to Vista/7/8?

Also, please update Planica hill when it's finished in real life.

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 08 Jan 2014, 01:07
by davisp
I think those major updates will only be available in DSJ 5... but I also would love to see it in DSJ4

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 09:17
by MattyPolz14
KamilStoch wrote:Please Jussi... listen. I would like to see game back in days of DSJ3. There should be dynamic wind, and probably dynamic gate too during competitions. And stronger possible wind. Peaks 3-4m. Game is not realistic as we see, in real life, there is not this stabile wind in 98% of competitions. Also they need to change gate many times.

Then Jussi, the game lacks more flying styles. Would be awesome to have them here as in real life!

And then, please block slowmotion too, as you did in DSJ3 1,7,0, slowdown didnt work in WIN XP. I think that's not a big problem to update clock error thingy to Vista/7/8?

Also, please update Planica hill when it's finished in real life.
I agree

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 12:20
by MikesCZ
Agree with unstable wind, not only its speed will change, but also direction, like in reality...

More flying styles? maybe in offline jumping, but online everyone will end up using the same style (the best one for particular hill)

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 12:25
by Jussi Koskela
MikesCZ wrote:Agree with unstable wind, not only its speed will change, but also direction, like in reality...

More flying styles? maybe in offline jumping, but online everyone will end up using the same style (the best one for particular hill)
Unstable wind is what ruins the competition in real life, so why should we do the same in DSJ4 since we can avoid that?

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 12:35
by MikesCZ
Jussi Koskela wrote: Unstable wind is what ruins the competition in real life, so why should we do the same in DSJ4 since we can avoid that?
I didn't mean conditions that will cause competition to be canceled, but something like: wind 1m/s to jumpers back in takeoff part of hill and then during flight it will be weaker and weaker and maybe change direction a bit to one side (from 12oclock position to 2oclock).

...But I get your point :)

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 18:40
by KamilStoch
Jussi Koskela wrote:
MikesCZ wrote:Agree with unstable wind, not only its speed will change, but also direction, like in reality...

More flying styles? maybe in offline jumping, but online everyone will end up using the same style (the best one for particular hill)
Unstable wind is what ruins the competition in real life, so why should we do the same in DSJ4 since we can avoid that?
I forgot to put wind compensation possibility to my proposition list. But if wind seed is changed so that wind direction can change, and there is much more possible values for speed, then compensation mode would be awesome! Not only in offline gaming but also online. Of course: this would be optional in single player mode and also some servers would have this and some not. Jussi, compensation belongs to ski jumping and nordic combined today :) But it's not so funny when wind is as stable as it is now.

If not in DSJ4, please think about this in later versions of this game (if there will be more of them in future...)

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 09 Jan 2014, 20:16
by J.MIRO
Only one thing is needed - new hills.

Re: Total change to DSJ4

Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 17:23
by MikesCZ
J.MIRO wrote:Only one thing is needed - new hills.
That's for sure. There will never be enough hills in DSJ games :)
For now: I'd really like to see Martin's national chat idea being realized.

On topic: I wouldn't implement compensation points to this game as I don't like them even in reality...I understand how everything is calculated and how each jump has different value in different conditions, but standings always looks kinda ridiculous when someone who made the longest jump, let's say 135m is in 15th place, leader after 1st round jumped 129.5 and another jumper who also jumped 129.5 is 12th....do you really want to see this in online competitions?