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blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 12:57
by skiflyer11
hi i know its just a small thing but just wanna tell jussi that the blue strap (P-Point)
is a bit too long at kulm
i know it has a different lengh form year to year this year it was about 15m long and in dsj it is 65m long

here is a pic
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Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 16:18
by Stigi
Good point! I have never noticed that:D Maybe that will be fixed to v1.1 ;)

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 16:59
by Jussi Koskela
Looks like I have misinterpreted the rules. I thought that the blue zone should be marked all the way to the P point, but the blue zone's length actually should be equal to HS-K. I'll fix this.

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 17:31
by Bartek Palewicz
What the hell is P-point?!

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 18:20
by SuperAdo111
P point is starting of that blue thing,Jussi you'll fix a hill to 215-216 distances?

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 18:53
by skiflyer11
yes the blue strap do marks the p-point just the lengh of it was wrong :)

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 24 Mar 2012, 18:56
by TPo
Jussi Koskela wrote:Looks like I have misinterpreted the rules. I thought that the blue zone should be marked all the way to the P point, but the blue zone's length actually should be equal to HS-K. I'll fix this.
I don't think there's a clear rule for that. In 2010 the blue line started at 150m: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E8NeVwO ... re=related
Also, in some hills like Oberstdorf, the red line stops before the HS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcM7bp_M ... re=related

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 01:52
by JakubJiroutek
There is no rule about it. And the blue strap is changed every year.

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 11:19
by skiflyer11
JakubJiroutek wrote:There is no rule about it. And the blue strap is changed every year.
but in planica it starts every year at 158m i think :)
except 2011, 2007 and 2006 in these years the blue straps started at the k-point weird :|

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 11:30
by Jussi Koskela
Ok, not a rule, but a recommendation. See section 417.3 at:
http://www.fis-ski.com/data/document/icr_jp_2008.pdf

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 11:33
by Jussi Koskela
Dydux666 wrote:What the hell is P-point?!
It's the point where the landing arc starts.

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 11:53
by skiflyer11
so but where is the exactly p-point at kulm? and in dsj4?

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 12:13
by Jussi Koskela
skiflyer11 wrote:so but where is the exactly p-point at kulm? and in dsj4?
The P-point is at 120 meters in both. The only difference is the marking of the zones.

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 12:23
by skiflyer11
Jussi Koskela wrote:
skiflyer11 wrote:so but where is the exactly p-point at kulm? and in dsj4?
The P-point is at 120 meters in both. The only difference is the marking of the zones.
where do you get all your hill datas?

Re: blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

Posted: 25 Mar 2012, 12:32
by Jussi Koskela
From the ski jumping centers.