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Harder take off

Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 19:49
by Risen
Currently it's too easy to get some height in my opinion, especially by taking off slightly before the end of inrun. Even if I try to make the jump bad, it takes off with the constant, large power. The only hill I've got real problems is Garmisch. If there was a point on the inrun, from which take off power would be the biggest, then decreasing each cm away from it. An elite "fit in" game.

Just please consider it.

The zones of take off power, colours are not to be included.
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Re: Harder take off

Posted: 26 Feb 2012, 19:54
by SuperAdo111
In Planica is too easy :3 I want this like in some games,some arcade games :D

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 00:03
by cruzzz112
No. Now is good.

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 27 Feb 2012, 17:58
by Fingi
@Risen: That take off would be way too early... (if you would start your takeoff in the green zone)

And I agree with cruzzz112, it's good as it is.

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 16:19
by Risen
Fingi wrote:@Risen: That take off would be way too early... (if you would start your takeoff in the green zone)

And I agree with cruzzz112, it's good as it is.
This is from my Planica record replay. I started to take off in the highlighted moment so he took off with his feet centimeters before the end of inrun :)

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 17:35
by TPo
Risen wrote:
Fingi wrote:@Risen: That take off would be way too early... (if you would start your takeoff in the green zone)

And I agree with cruzzz112, it's good as it is.
This is from my Planica record replay. I started to take off in the highlighted moment so he took off with his feet centimeters before the end of inrun :)
That's actually too early :wink:

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 18:23
by AlexRollercoaster
The Take-Off must be later so like this:

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Maybe it is a bit too late, but on this Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBHXA4U ... re=related

On 0:30

Or on this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvelNcS6 ... re=related

On 0:44

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 20:25
by dzamper
It's because IRL the actual take-off (I mean gain of the upward momentum) doesn't happen when legs are straight, but a bit earlier.

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 14:18
by Risen
TPo wrote:
Risen wrote:This is from my Planica record replay. I started to take off in the highlighted moment so he took off with his feet centimeters before the end of inrun :)
That's actually too early :wink:
Good to know mate, thanks :? This may prove that it's currently too easy. I jumped 228m with definitely bad end of the jump (panic mode on).

Anyway, who, if not mr J. knows the best where's the right moment? :P
Mine is just a proposal to make the take off power stricter, according to the right moment.

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 16:52
by skiflyer11
i think he even doesnt know that :wink:

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 18:01
by Jussi Koskela
skiflyer11 wrote:i think he even doesnt know that :wink:
I haven't hard-coded any optimal time for the takeoff. It's the physics engine that calculates the outcome.

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 18:41
by skiflyer11
Jussi Koskela wrote:
skiflyer11 wrote:i think he even doesnt know that :wink:
I haven't hard-coded any optimal time for the takeoff. It's the physics engine that calculates the outcome.
that was exactly what i meant :wink:

Re: Harder take off

Posted: 01 Mar 2012, 12:07
by Risen
So, doable and necessary?