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Posted: **06 Jan 2011, 18:04**

WC - Wednesday 19.00 CE(S)T 2011-01-05
Klasyfikacja końcowa po 40/40 konkursach

Poz.  Gracz                    Kraj        Ocena     I    II   III     N     Punkty
1.    Andre Ottesen 3          NOR          1590     5     7     3    40       1778
2.    Martin Kafka             CZE          1535     3     4     4    39       1440
3.    Krzysztof Kowalski       POL          1477     5     2     3    40       1388
4.    Dariusz Jabłoński        POL          1575     2     3     1    39       1267
5.    Rafał Wesołek            POL          1397     3     1     5    39       1236
6.    Maciej Mazański          POL          1535     -     3     2    40       1191
7.    Michal Micka             CZE          1533     1     4     1    40       1187
8.    Wojtek Szablewicz        POL          1508     3     1     3    40       1160
9.    Karol Rutkowski          POL          1487     4     1     2    40       1054
10.   Damian Cichon            POL          1462     1     3     1    39        983
11.   Roger Edvardsen          NOR          1458     1     1     -    39        831
12.   Robert Szczepaniak       POL          1391     2     -     1    40        811
13.   Krzysztof Nagay          POL          1356     1     1     4    40        792
14.   Henning Sommerstad       NOR          1485     1     1     1    34        739
15.   M. A. Lipiński           POL          1251     2     -     1    39        731
16.   Motz Kolosowski          AUT          1421     1     -     1    36        706
17.   Piotr Kaczmarczyk        POL          1406     -     1     -    40        671
18.   Jan Štěrba Jr.           CZE          1535     -     -     2    25        615
19.   steinar hansen 2         NOR          1416     -     -     1    35        520
20.   Brane Kocjancic          SLO          1334     1     -     -    39        489
21.   sami kiimalainen         FIN          1332     -     -     2    40        473
22.   Grzegorz Jabcoń          POL          1310     -     1     -    38        472
23.   Petri Kähkönen           FIN          1382     -     -     -    40        469
24.   Ketil Berg               NOR          1359     1     -     1    40        453
25.   Tom-Kjetil Nygård        NOR          1310     -     1     1    40        432
26.   Wojciech Rudzinski       POL          1352     -     -     -    40        413
27.   Eino Lämsä               FIN          1378     -     -     -    30        386
28.   Hermann Geisler          AUT          1297     -     -     1    40        374
29.   Mikko Säkkinen 2         FIN          1280     -     1     -    39        355
30.   rune åbø                 NOR          1341     -     1     -    33        339
31.   Ernst Lankenau           GER          1371     -     -     -    26        334
32.   Karol Wróbel             POL          1331     -     -     1    22        318
33.   Risto Peltoniemi         FIN          1308     -     1     -    28        275
34.   Peter Brkan              SLO          1285     -     -     -    38        241
35.   Magnor Samueljord        NOR          1411     -     1     -    11        222
      Andy Jakesch             GER          1291     -     1     -    16        222
37.   matej rajterič           SLO          1217     1     -     -    37        218
      Vid Pogacnik             SLO          1192     -     -     -    38        218
39.   Maximilian Geiler        GER          1367     -     1     -    16        200
40.   Roman Unger              GER          1255     -     -     -    37        199
41.   Jussi Niska 2            FIN          1289     -     -     -    33        194
      Einar Tørnquist Johans.  NOR          1359     -     -     -    20        194
43.   Jussi Lyytinen           FIN          1279     -     -     -    30        184
44.   Srecko                   SUI          1137     -     -     -    28        178
45.   Alan Ruzic               SLO          1335     -     -     -    13        140
46.   Zoran Stanic             SRB          1291     1     -     -     3        126
47.   Jacek Terbert            POL          1155     -     -     -    38        123
48.   Christian Hermann        GER          1227     1     -     -    14        121
49.   Paweł Połeć              POL          1140     -     -     -    40        118
50.   Łukasz Falęcik           POL          1165     -     -     -    21        107
51.   alexander burger         GER          1395     -     -     -     9        103
52.   Marcin Połeć             POL          1176     -     -     -    38         95
53.   Matti Malkamäki          FIN          1184     -     -     -    29         94
54.   Marcin Wolniewicz        POL          1162     -     -     -    38         93
55.   TOMISLAV PAVLOVIC        CRO          1168     -     -     -    13         88
56.   erik vidar eriksen       NOR          1181     -     -     -    34         84
57.   Jouko Järvinen           FIN          1146     -     -     1    14         78
58.   Olgierd Kawecki          POL          1226     -     -     -    12         70
59.   Rafal Rzepczynski        POL          1202     -     -     -    40         63
60.   Maciej Sobiecki          POL          1333     -     -     -     9         60
61.   Juha-Pekka Kähkönen      FIN          1141     -     -     -    13         56
62.   Lauri Lamio              FIN          1161     -     -     -    25         51
63.   Tomas Hires              SVK          1104     -     -     -    40         46
64.   Sandi Lunder             SLO          1051     -     -     -    28         44
65.   Krzysztof Lachowski      POL          1315     -     -     -     3         42
66.   Thor Erik Hegle          NOR          1124     -     -     -    28         31
67.   Jani Novak               SLO          1163     -     -     -     9         30
68.   sveinung kolsvik 3       NOR          1248     -     -     -     4         24
69.   Mikko Lintunen           FIN          1020     -     -     -    40         19
70.   Olli Pitkänen            FIN          1185     -     -     -     8         15
71.   Frode Karlsen            NOR          1041     -     -     -    26          9
72.   Przemek Brzozowski       POL          1002     -     -     -    15          7
73.   Jan Duske                GER           922     -     -     -    40          5
      Aljosa Cimzar            SLO          1140     -     -     -     4          5
75.   Kicaj                    POL          1077     -     -     -    20          4
76.   Jan Cihosky              CZE          1259     -     -     -     3          2
77.   Jonne Rämö               FIN          1003     -     -     -    38          1
78.   jaakko pelkonen          FIN           923     -     -     -    10          0
      Zlatko Lamot             SLO          1202     -     -     -     3          0
      Sebastian Albrecht       POL           945     -     -     -    35          0
      Rolf Carlsen 2           NOR          1095     -     -     -     1          0
      Rikard Strand 3          NOR           986     -     -     -    16          0
      Piotr Pizon 2            GER           889     -     -     -    30          0
      Marko Puustinen          FIN           822     -     -     -     2          0
      Marecki                  POL           915     -     -     -    21          0
      Marc Richters            GER           933     -     -     -    25          0
      Kenneth Juel Stavik      NOR           808     -     -     -     5          0
      Dawid Marczak            POL          1096     -     -     -     2          0
      Artturi Mononen          FIN          1130     -     -     -     2          0
                                                   


                                                             grt Andre Ottesen 3

Posted: **06 Jan 2011, 22:32**

4-Hill Tournament 2010/2011
Standings after 3/4 tournaments
Rank Method: Jump Points

Rank  Name                     Nation Total JP
1.    Martin Kafka               CZE     4413
2.    Maciej Mazański            POL     3906
3.    Krzysztof Kowalski         POL     3797
4.    M. A. Lipiński             POL     3647
5.    Wojtek Szablewicz          POL     3411
6.    Karol Rutkowski            POL     2996
7.    Robert Szczepaniak         POL     2867
8.    Rafał Wesołek              POL     2847
9.    Roger Edvardsen            NOR     2796
10.   Andre Ottesen 3            NOR     2610
11.   Piotr Kaczmarczyk          POL     2589
12.   Damian Cichon              POL     2541
13.   Michal Micka               CZE     2538
14.   Dariusz Jabłoński          POL     2369
15.   Petri Kähkönen             FIN     2061
16.   Christian Lykke Førgaard   DEN     1776
17.   geir mikael reijners       NOR     1760
18.   Remigiusz Graduszewski     POL     1699
19.   Grzegorz Jabcoń            POL     1468
20.   Ketil Berg                 NOR     1329
21.   Arne Ball                  NOR     1322
22.   Karol Wróbel               POL     1266
23.   Krzysztof Nagay            POL     1239
24.   Andy Jakesch               GER     1205
25.   Brane Kocjancic            SLO     1146
26.   Maximilian Geiler          GER     1102
27.   Vid Pogacnik               SLO     1087
      Henning Sommerstad         NOR     1087
29.   Eino Lämsä                 FIN      991
30.   Mika J Ollikainen          FIN      933
31.   steinar hansen 2           NOR      884
32.   Mika Suhonen               FIN      847
33.   TOMISLAV PAVLOVIC          CRO      822
34.   Ola Resaland               NOR      806
35.   Tino Kessler               GER      736
36.   Wojciech Rudzinski         POL      724
37.   Motz Kolosowski            AUT      706
38.   sami kiimalainen           FIN      687
39.   Maciej Sobiecki            POL      676
40.   Jan Štěrba Jr.             CZE      615
41.   Hermann Geisler            AUT      614
42.   Peter Zeisl                AUT      597
43.   matej rajterič             SLO      570
44.   Zlatko Lamot               SLO      521
45.   Mikko Säkkinen 2           FIN      491
46.   Hermann Pötsch             AUT      490
47.   Andreas Feydt 2            NOR      474
48.   Paweł Połeć                POL      449
49.   Tom-Kjetil Nygård          NOR      432
50.   Łukasz Falęcik             POL      424
51.   Harald Ullebø              NOR      379
52.   Lauri Lamio                FIN      377
53.   Jussi Lyytinen             FIN      375
54.   Gunnar Thormodsæter        NOR      366
55.   Risto Peltoniemi           FIN      343
      Marcin Wolniewicz          POL      343
57.   rune åbø                   NOR      339
58.   Ernst Lankenau             GER      334
59.   Tadeusz Dąbkowski          POL      308
60.   Zoran Stanic               SRB      305
61.   Tore Gjørven 3             NOR      282
62.   Rafal Rzepczynski          POL      277
63.   Einar Tørnquist Johans.    NOR      276
64.   Jan Cihosky                CZE      243
65.   Peter Brkan                SLO      241
66.   Jukka Peräkorpi            FIN      229
      Jani Novak                 SLO      229
68.   Magnor Samueljord          NOR      222
69.   Tom Skoglund               NOR      201
70.   Roman Unger                GER      199
71.   Mariusz Krajewski          POL      197
72.   Jussi Niska 2              FIN      194
73.   Srecko                     SUI      188
74.   Jacek Terbert              POL      175
75.   Jakub Jaworski             POL      173
76.   Marcin Połeć               POL      164
77.   EVE EVE                    NOR      146
78.   Alan Ruzic                 SLO      140
79.   Joachim Valeskini          AUT      138
80.   Christian Hermann          GER      121
81.   Olli Pitkänen              FIN      110
82.   Antti Valamo               FIN      109
83.   alexander burger           GER      103
84.   TOMASZ PIOTR RYKAŁA        ITA      102
85.   Michael Romeike 2          GER      100
86.   Mikko Lintunen             FIN       98
87.   Matti Malkamäki            FIN       94
88.   Aljosa Cimzar              SLO       85
89.   erik vidar eriksen         NOR       84
90.   Sandi Lunder               SLO       81
91.   Jouko Järvinen             FIN       78
92.   Tomas Hires                SVK       74
93.   Olgierd Kawecki            POL       70
94.   Gabriel Jóźwik             POL       68
95.   Kicaj                      POL       66
96.   Juha-Pekka Kähkönen        FIN       56
97.   ANTE MARTINIS              CRO       43
      Norbert Rindle             GER       43
99.   Krzysztof Lachowski        POL       42
100.  Johann Höbart              AUT       41
101.  Piotr Bialas               POL       39
102.  Mikko Myötänen 2           FIN       36
      Ryan Pederson              USA       36
104.  sveinung kolsvik 3         NOR       35
105.  Thor Erik Hegle            NOR       31
106.  Hulk Hulk                  POL       28
107.  Jarno Koivisto             FIN       25
108.  Jan Duske                  GER       15
109.  Marecki                    POL       14
110.  EMEK                       POL       13
      Andreas Kraus              AUS       13
112.  Casper Førgaard            DEN       12
113.  Przemek Brzozowski         POL        9
      Frode Karlsen              NOR        9
115.  Roland Schwidefsky 2       GER        7
      Lars Kilanger              NOR        7
      Varg Veum                  NOR        7
118.  Henrik Eidi                NOR        6
119.  Marc Richters              GER        2
      Pasi Roininen              FIN        2
      cyp                        POL        2
122.  Timo Leopold               GER        1
      Jonne Rämö                 FIN        1

Posted: **06 Jan 2011, 23:44**

Lucky me I wasn't running for a position at the top of the 4 hills tournament anyway, but I kinda though that the DSJ community would be more fair than the FIS and cancel this "tournament" (which felt more like a punishment due to the extreme lag issues) for the 4 hills tournament. I feel sad for everyone who was still fighting for a top ranking and was stopped by the lag issues, but I really see no reason why the Saturday competition can't become the 3rd 4 hills competition. I even got totally disconnected from the DSJ servers after losing at least about 100 points (online score) due to those lag issues and had to call it a day.

I'm a little disappointed in the players that decided to make this farce count. You could have proven greatness by postponing the 3rd competition to Saturday and making the next Wednesday competition the 4th competition for the tournament. I guess you missed that chance, whoever decided to make this farce count ...

Taking advantage from this situation has got NOTHING to do with skill, y'know?

Posted: **07 Jan 2011, 00:37**

EyTschej wrote:whoever decided to make this farce count ...:

Simply put, no one did :-) We're all just following the database calendar (which I had created and sent to Jan-Erik BEFORE the season started).
I'd compare this to Ga-Pa competition and say: let's just move on.
If some (or all) of the top players feel they've been heavily disadvantaged, we may try to reorganize the calendar, but I doubt that it's worth the hassle, AND, as far as I know, the main battle was between me and Adam, and he was simply out of shape this time, as he mentioned in chat, neither of us got disconnected, and the rest of the top standings is more or less the same as it was at 2/4.
Let's also hear some other (unbiased? :-)) opinions on this.

Posted: **07 Jan 2011, 02:13**

Lag happens in internet gaming.

Posted: **07 Jan 2011, 02:45**

@TPo: Your reply is very childish and doesn't do any good

Martin, like I said: We don't need to make the same bullshit that the FIS makes. Taking advantage of an unfortunate situation for others got nothing to do with skill and that's a fact. I know you're probably the best DSJ player together with Lipinski and your skill is out of the question, but this 4 hills tournament is damaged goods ... because it's only going to be a 2 hills tournament to me. Congratulations to you for winning this 2 hill tournament slightly ahead of MAL.

I'm simply disappointed by the decision makers in this case. When the FIS had to cancel the Harrachov ski jumping (not flying) world cups in December, they postponed one event to Engelberg and the other to Zakopane, which was a good decision. The 3rd compeition of the DSJ 4 hills tournament could have easily been postponed as well. When the FIS didn't cancel Garmisch-Partenkirchen, they were criticized for their decision - and they deserved it, because it was a bad decision.

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