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This proves that he cheats ? Math was never my strongest subject

It does not really prove it, but it's quite a strong indication that there's something wrong with his results...

onkelsmerte wrote:This proves that he cheats ? Math was never my strongest subject

This says: if you have a look at the hillrecs of all players at this moment then NORMALLY 1 of 150 Million players with 40 records on the 40 hills will have scores, that will show this pattern:
- zero records of this 40 records have a 0 or 5 at the last position
- 5 or more records will look like 130.02, 140.01, 280.01 (0...9 cm over a 10m-Mark)

For Waldemar's records does this mean:
a) he doesn't jump normal with random result (he is manipulating the scores manually)
b) it's just a coincidence and everyting is ok

The chance for b) is 1:150 Million, so it's the same chance as if i would say to you "think of random number between 1 and 150000000" and then i would tell you exactly THIS number (5986307 for istance).
Another example: it's easier throwing a dice 10 times and always getting a 6 (with only ONE attempt).

Torsten wrote:Finding a player with 40 records, including ZERO records with 0 or 5 at the end PLUS including 5 records with less then 10 cm over a 10m-Mark should normally be impossible, cause the probability for that (both probabilitys are independent!) is:
1 : 150 Million

Wow I guess now he is thinking hard what to write in his next rec If he still avoids 0 or 5 at the end, the statistics will keep looking extremely bad for him, and if he chooses 0 or 5 it will look as if he read your post and is manipulating to mend the problem

Grufugl wrote:Wow I guess now he is thinking hard what to write in his next rec If he still avoids 0 or 5 at the end, the statistics will keep looking extremely bad for him, and if he chooses 0 or 5 it will look as if he read your post and is manipulating to mend the problem

It doesn't matter if future records will be more random or if they are showing 0s and 5s. If i have a look at the scores on april 24th then the chances of seeing score like Waldemars with the described pattern is 1:150000000 ... so if he is reading this thread and is changing his ARTIFICIAL style of scoring then this wouldn't change the chance of seeing such scores at the day i was looking at them (april 24/23)

Torsten wrote:this wouldn't change the chance of seeing such scores at the day i was looking at them (april 24/23)

I'm aware of that. I am simply amused of what must be a big frustration for him. Anyway, good job Torsten

JUSSI

YOU MUST TAKE CHEATER RELAYS!!!

You can write in mediamond in top place!!!!

Pfleger, Jaluvka, Waldemar must give replat, if not they records will be canneled!!!!


Jussi please get this in top in web!!!!
We must get his replays!!!! Because We know that 327,78 its not possible!!!!! You know about this!!!!

Michał Skalik yesterday said me that he end carrer!!!! Because you don't figth with cheaters!!!! He will be jumping only in online......

Jussi please !!!!

Write in top on mediamond web!!!!

I know that my englisch is bad sorry, but I'm really angry!!!

I AGREE!!!!!

Italy HS-146 Stepan Pfleger CZE 2009-03-17 154.59m
Italy HS-146 Matej Novak SLO 2006-12-13 154.14m (version 1.5)

Pfleger has joined the game.

Insane lenght

Funny coincidence in SP's "world records": Switzerland 170,00 m and Bulgaria 290,00 m. As well there is in Korea 189,99...

Can it be just coincidence? In my opinion it can't, especially when we talk about "The 3 (or 4) Greatest"

Wow, i am playing offline quite a while and online for one day now! Czech is really some type of swearword here, just because of these two guys with an ego-problem.
I asked Jussi to change my license to czech..although I am half german half czech. Dont be czechophobic...specially polish seem a bit....come on you are not all thiefs just cause most cars desappear in your direction.

But I totally agree with deleting both...its so annoying to see their names all the time!