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Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 18:55
by Maciejo-96
I have a nice vision of perfect DSJ4. What I expect there? Here you have a list: *Modified physics - I mean: a bit changed position and aerodynamics in flight, like Freund, a bit modified takeoff physics (quite strongly reduced measure of making gibbon; trying to do it bigger makes more chances to fall a jump).

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:02
by Vaaranto
Maciejo-96 wrote:I have a nice vision of perfect DSJ4. What I expect there? Here you have a list: *Modified physics - I mean: a bit changed position and aerodynamics in flight, like Freund, a bit modified takeoff physics (quite strongly reduced measure of making gibbon; trying to do it bigger makes more chances to fall a jump).
Sounds good

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:02
by lucasp170
Jussi Koskela wrote:It's not possible to charge for the updates.
Why? It could be good option to pay for new hills.

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:06
by Jussi Koskela
lucasp170 wrote:
Jussi Koskela wrote:It's not possible to charge for the updates.
Why? It could be good option to pay for new hills.
This is what is promised for those who buy the game: "-Free updates to DSJ4 series"

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:12
by Vaaranto
Jussi Koskela wrote:
lucasp170 wrote:
Jussi Koskela wrote:It's not possible to charge for the updates.
Why? It could be good option to pay for new hills.
This is what is promised: "-Free updates to DSJ4 series"

You must advertise the game more

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:19
by Jussi Koskela
AlexRollercoaster wrote:Jussi did you calculated sometime who it costs to create one Hill at an average size so arround HS130?

including power costs and all that stuff
It doesn't cost anything to create a hill, but I would like to get a reasonable compensation for the work that I am doing. It takes about 2 weeks to create an average hill.

Re: Changelog DSJ4 v1.5.1 -> DSJ4 v1.5.2

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:25
by SecretEyeCZ
Jussi Koskela wrote:
lucasp170 wrote:So, you should upload new version of DSJ 4, then begin work on DSJ 5. Many players could pay for that.
I wish it was that simple :)
I know it´s not simple, but do you sometimes think about someone, who helps you whit dsj? Do you have to do that game forever alone? I think there are good programators, wich can you help. ;)

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:32
by Jussi Koskela
Vaaranto wrote: You must advertise the game more
Only non-paid advertising comes in question for a small game like DSJ. Word of mouth has been a strong channel for DSJ but now the most common word of mouth seems to be how to play the full version illegally for free.

It's pretty descriptive if you check what additional keywords Google suggests when you search for 'Deluxe Ski Jump 4'.

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:37
by Vaaranto
Jussi Koskela wrote:
Vaaranto wrote: You must advertise the game more
Only non-paid advertising comes in question for a small game like DSJ. Word of mouth has been a strong channel for DSJ but now the most common word of mouth seems to be how to play the full version illegally for free.

It's pretty descriptive if you check what additional keywords Google suggests when you search for 'Deluxe Ski Jump 4'.
Yeah i see, its sad:( . Im gonna do my best advertising this game hope everyone else too!

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 19:53
by davisp
Would it be possible to make DSJ4 "modable"? So that the community could create new hills, fantasy hills, whatever and everyone can download it. Like it's possible in the GTA-series. If the community creates the hills then it would be no problem with the "copyright" (permission) for the hills. I've never heard of a GTA modder who got charged for doing an original model. Would that be an option for you if you decide to stop working on DSJ4?

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:05
by Jussi Koskela
davisp wrote:Would it be possible to make DSJ4 "modable"? So that the community could create new hills, fantasy hills, whatever and everyone can download it. Like it's possible in the GTA-series. If the community creates the hills then it would be no problem with the "copyright" (permission) for the hills. I've never heard of a GTA modder who got charged for doing an original model. Would that be an option for you if you decide to stop working on DSJ4?
There's no hill editor available and creating hills requires in-depth knowledge of how everything works (or does not work ;)). So, this is not an easy solution.

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:10
by lucasp170
Jussi, create editor, if you can. :p

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:20
by davisp
Jussi Koskela wrote:
davisp wrote:Would it be possible to make DSJ4 "modable"? So that the community could create new hills, fantasy hills, whatever and everyone can download it. Like it's possible in the GTA-series. If the community creates the hills then it would be no problem with the "copyright" (permission) for the hills. I've never heard of a GTA modder who got charged for doing an original model. Would that be an option for you if you decide to stop working on DSJ4?
There's no hill editor available and creating hills requires in-depth knowledge of how everything works (or does not work ;)). So, this is not an easy solution.
So it's not as easy as for GTA? Where you can use a 3d modeling program and with some tinkering integrate the model in the game? What a pity :(

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:28
by Rajmek1233
Make a official profile on Facebook for advertisement

Re: The future of DSJ

Posted: 23 Mar 2014, 20:35
by lucasp170
Rajmek1233 wrote:Make a official profile on Facebook for advertisement
And you can use it to announce promotions. For example: 25.03.2014 you can buy online pass for 20% less.