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Mizka V wrote:100 REAL ONLINE JUMPERS FROM 21 COUNTRIES. (All jumpers are CPU andSkill based 9.12.2012
Linke:http://www.multiupload.nl/VFJLW61ROE

Nice pack, but why im not there?

2012/2013 Ski Jumpers Pack 1.5 - with CPU ratings

- Real suits
- All jumpers, who have points in World Cup 12/13. (58 jumpers) - http://berkutschi.com/en/front/standings
- CPU with real ratings


New version after Innsbruck

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2012/2013 Ski Jumpers Pack 1.6 - with CPU ratings

- Real suits
- All jumpers, who have points in World Cup 12/13. (59 jumpers) - http://berkutschi.com/en/front/standings
- CPU with real ratings


New version after Bischofschofen

Download: http://adf.ly/Gvl3F
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greex1 wrote:2012/2013 Ski Jumpers Pack 1.6 - with CPU ratings

- Real suits
- All jumpers, who have points in World Cup 12/13. (59 jumpers) - http://berkutschi.com/en/front/standings
- CPU with real ratings


New version after Bischofschofen

Download: http://adf.ly/Gvl3F
Mirror: http://adf.ly/Gvl5m

martinpro wrote:@greex1

Thanks for your work but could you be making every time 2nd pack in addition - same but with non-CPU jumpers?

also there are mistakes in spelling in these (here I wrote them correctly):

Janne Happonen
Sebastain Colloredo

martinpro wrote:

greex1 wrote:2012/2013 Ski Jumpers Pack 1.6 - with CPU ratings

- Real suits
- All jumpers, who have points in World Cup 12/13. (59 jumpers) - http://berkutschi.com/en/front/standings
- CPU with real ratings


New version after Bischofschofen

Download: http://adf.ly/Gvl3F
Mirror: http://adf.ly/Gvl5m

martinpro wrote:@greex1

Thanks for your work but could you be making every time 2nd pack in addition - same but with non-CPU jumpers?

also there are mistakes in spelling in these (here I wrote them correctly):

Janne Happonen
Sebastain Colloredo

Thanx Version with non-CPU jumper after FHT

Fictional Ski Jumpers Pack v1.3

Link: http://speedy.sh/cjHsJ/Fictional-Jumpers-v1.3.zip


Patch Notes (1.2 1.3):
- added 5 jumpers (two without CPU ratings)
- refreshed kit which belongs to two jumpers.

greex1,

First, I want to thank you so much for your great and detailed work on your ski jumpers pack. I really enjoy playing it.

But don't you think your CPU players are a bit overpowered? Please compare this results from a recent DSJ game in Garmisch to the real results from this year's 4HT:
Results of 4HT: http://vierschanzentournee.com/de/resul ... tion=11375


The winner's jumps may be realistic, but in general the jumpers from your pack are (in this case) about 5 meters ahead of their real-life counterparts with same rank. I still consider myself as a beginner and I can understand if you find weaker CPU opponents too less challenging, but it's really frustrating for me if I fail in qualification with a jump that could easily bring me into second round Of course I could adjust this by myself, but it is really much work if I do it after each of your updates. I hope you keep that in mind.

However, keep up the great work!

Thank you,
AirRic

AirRic wrote:greex1,

First, I want to thank you so much for your great and detailed work on your ski jumpers pack. I really enjoy playing it.

But don't you think your CPU players are a bit overpowered? Please compare this results from a recent DSJ game in Garmisch to the real results from this year's 4HT:

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Rank  Name                     Nation       1.Sprung     2.Sprung       Punkte
1.    Andreas Wellinger        GER           138.5 m      137.0 m        282.4
2.    Anders Bardal            NOR           139.0 m      137.0 m        282.3
3.    Rune Velta               NOR           137.0 m      138.5 m        281.4
4.    Denis Kornilov           RUS           139.0 m      136.5 m        279.4
5.    Anders Fannemel          NOR           136.5 m      138.0 m        278.6
6.    Maximilian Mechler       GER           136.5 m      138.0 m        276.6
7.    Andreas Stjernen         NOR           135.5 m      138.5 m        276.2
8.    Peter Prevc              SLO           135.0 m      138.0 m        274.9
9.    Yuta Watase              JPN           140.0 m      132.0 m        274.1
10.   Jaka Hvala               SLO           138.5 m      132.0 m        273.9
11.   Andreas Kofler           AUT           135.0 m      136.0 m        273.8
12.   Gregor Schlierenzauer    AUT           137.5 m      134.0 m        273.7
13.   Roman Koudelka           CZE           134.5 m      137.0 m        273.2
14.   Vladimir Zografski       BUL           135.0 m      136.5 m        272.7
      Kamil Stoch              POL           136.0 m      135.5 m        272.7
16.   Noriaki Kasai            JPN           135.5 m      134.5 m        272.0
17.   Thomas Morgenstern       AUT           138.0 m      133.5 m        271.7
18.   Reruhi Shimizu           JPN           137.0 m      134.0 m        270.8
19.   Lukas Hlava              CZE           136.5 m      133.0 m        270.6
20.   Maciej Kot               POL           136.5 m      133.5 m        270.5
21.   Michael Neumayer         GER           134.0 m      134.0 m        270.4
22.   Vegard Swensen           NOR           136.5 m      134.5 m        269.8
      Wolfgang Loitzl          AUT           138.5 m      130.0 m        269.8
24.   Anders Jacobsen          NOR           135.5 m      134.5 m        269.5
25.   Tom Hilde                NOR           135.0 m      133.0 m        267.4
26.   Dimitry Vassiliev        RUS           135.5 m      132.5 m        266.9
27.   Taku Takeuchi            JPN           137.0 m      130.5 m        263.5
28.   Stefan Hula              POL           137.5 m      123.5 m        246.3
29.   Piotr Żyła               POL           137.0 m      118.5 m        239.4
30.   Lauri Asikainen          FIN           134.5 m      127.5 m*       229.1

Results of 4HT: http://vierschanzentournee.com/de/resul ... tion=11375


The winner's jumps may be realistic, but in general the jumpers from your pack are (in this case) about 5 meters ahead of their real-life counterparts with same rank. I still consider myself as a beginner and I can understand if you find weaker CPU opponents too less challenging, but it's really frustrating for me if I fail in qualification with a jump that could easily bring me into second round Of course I could adjust this by myself, but it is really much work if I do it after each of your updates. I hope you keep that in mind.

However, keep up the great work!

Thank you,
AirRic

I agree, they are defenitely overpowered, just as you said.

2012/2013 Ski Jumpers Pack 1.7 - with CPU ratings

- Real suits
- All jumpers, who have points in World Cup 12/13. (62 jumpers) - http://berkutschi.com/en/front/standings
- CPU with real ratings


New version after Sapporo

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AirRic - After season I will do few packs:

* More jumpers - about 150 ( season 12/13 of course)
* More jumpers - about 150 to record hunting (non CPU)
* Jumpers, who have points in WC ( ratings 600-1350)
* Teams non CPU
* Team ratings 600-1350
* Pack with larger spaces - Schlierenzauer 1600, Bardal 1550 etc.

Teams - World Cup 2012/2013 1.1

- Real suits
- Real CPU ratings
- 11 teams:
AUSTRIA
CZECH REPUBLIC
FINLAND
GERMANY
ITALY
JAPAN
NORWAY
POLAND
RUSSIA
SLOVENIA
SWITZERLAND

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AirRic wrote:The winner's jumps may be realistic, but in general the jumpers from your pack are (in this case) about 5 meters ahead of their real-life counterparts with same rank. I still consider myself as a beginner and I can understand if you find weaker CPU opponents too less challenging, but it's really frustrating for me if I fail in qualification with a jump that could easily bring me into second round

Jumpers generally fly longer in DSJ 4 than in real ski jumping, and this is because of a difference in flight characteristics. In DSJ 4, the jumper reaches its flying position quicker than in real ski jumping, which is well enough to make the five meter advantage. It's also an evidence of the excellence of this game's physics engine. There may be some exceptions to this such as the claimed out-datedness of startgates in Kulm (more gates down the inrun IRL).

Maybe we should create jumper packs also for people who prefer to jump offline. The CPU jumper levels are calculated based on the results from online game.

Przede wszystkim wielkie podziękowania dla greex1'a za jego pracę ! Żeby jednak poziom wszystkich zawodników odpowiadał prawdziwym ich parametrom, trzeba by zmniejszyć ich parametry o około 300 i ja tak sobie zrobiłem Przy obecnych ustawieniach, najlepsi zawodnicy skaczą o wiele za daleko niż w prawdziwych zawodach. I tak na przykład na Wielkiej Krokwii zawodnicy z czołówki potrafią skakać przy korzystnym wietrze nawet po 145 metrów, kiedy faktycznie uzyskują po około 135 metrów. To samo na na innych skoczniach Prośba więc taka, żeby te parametry odpowiednio pozmniejszać - u mnie zaczynając od Schlieriego jest: skocznia normalna - 1260, skocznia duża - 1300 i skocznia mamucia - 1300. Wtedy odległości odpowiadają prawdziwym

First of all a big thank you for greex1'a for his work! But to all levels of jumpers suit their real parameters, one would have to reduce their performance by about 300, and I did so myself With the current settings greex1'a, the best jumpers jumping too far than real competition

Fictional Ski Jumpers Pack v1.3.1

Link: http://speedy.sh/5TBxq/Fictional-Jumpers-v1.3.1.zip

Patch Notes (1.3 1.3.1):
- added CPU ratings for new jumpers.

Version 1.4 will be probably released in the start of February. In this version will be probably over 100 jumpers.


PS. DSJ4 players pack (without authentic kits) in progress!

@greex1

When there will be new version of pack?

DSJ4 Players Pack v1.0.0

Link: http://speedy.sh/TUy5S/DSJ4-Players-Pack-v1.0.0.zip


Info about pack:
- 108 jumpers without authentic suits
- no CPU ratings.

v1.1.0 will come in the end of this week. In this version will be:
- more jumpers,
- CPU ratings.

If you have any remark about this pack write to me PM.