Heikki Haikonen finally talks

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he10th3r310
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Heikki Haikonen finally talks

Post by he10th3r310 »

DSJ2 Total Length: 5438,88m
DSJ3 Total Length: 7825,25m
DSJ4 Total Lenght: 3560,25m (offline)

Combined: 16824.38m

I'm a retired player. I won't jump more competitive jumps, but I will anyway support the game future development as I can.
Aleks Belkowski
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Post by Aleks Belkowski »

I am excited :)
Xinitiao
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Post by Xinitiao »

Is the other video on this channel a spoiler for the next one? Because I remember it appearing some time ago in this forum... :S

Edit: Ah yes it is, so from now on everyone interested in hunting records knows how to save the wind... Can we finally have a dedicated record hunting mode please?
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he10th3r310
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Re: Heikki Haikonen finally talks

Post by he10th3r310 »

Now it's time to close the curtains on my profiles and records here once and for all. So Jussi please press the big red button.
DSJ2 Total Length: 5438,88m
DSJ3 Total Length: 7825,25m
DSJ4 Total Lenght: 3560,25m (offline)

Combined: 16824.38m

I'm a retired player. I won't jump more competitive jumps, but I will anyway support the game future development as I can.
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Post by Dangerous Dave »

The argument that record hunting mode would "devalue the records" is officially dead. The cheated records have been there for YEARS, the Lillehammer record for more than 7 years, and nobody could prove they were cheated. In that case, I would say the records already hold no value whatsoever, anyone could have cheated if they wanted to. If I'm not mistaken, it is possible to use the same cheating method even today.
Record hunting mode would just be a quality of life update to make the game more pleasant for legitimate players. There is no valid reason to oppose it.
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Post by Mariusz Paweł »

It's nice to finally officially say that I've always had suspicions about you and I'm even more pleased with myself that I was the closest player who fought with you and most important all that im doing it clear, after this video where you finally admitted to cheating don't ask Jussi, just have the balls and delete what you did shortcut yourself.


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he10th3r310
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Re: Heikki Haikonen finally talks

Post by he10th3r310 »

There is no way to delete records on my own sadly. Anyways 3560 is far from perfect, if I remember right about my practice jumps combined with my records, that tl would be about 3572-3573m so there is alot to do for someone who just has enough will
DSJ2 Total Length: 5438,88m
DSJ3 Total Length: 7825,25m
DSJ4 Total Lenght: 3560,25m (offline)

Combined: 16824.38m

I'm a retired player. I won't jump more competitive jumps, but I will anyway support the game future development as I can.
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Re: Heikki Haikonen finally talks

Post by he10th3r310 »

I wonder if anybody ever noticed anything weird with these records, like waiting for perfect moment of wind, wrong date with replay etc, not even Jussi? Because it was pretty clear back in 2018, and the funniest being my Ober record which I did again 4 times in a very short amount of time lol. I was sure I was gonna get caught but I did not even care anymore

By the way, who was responsible for Pfleger/Jalyvka accounts? They had similar cheat and would like to know which program they used. And what was used in dsj3 back in 2005, those replays have similar wind waiting trick
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DSJ2 Total Length: 5438,88m
DSJ3 Total Length: 7825,25m
DSJ4 Total Lenght: 3560,25m (offline)

Combined: 16824.38m

I'm a retired player. I won't jump more competitive jumps, but I will anyway support the game future development as I can.
JanK
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Post by JanK »

@Jussi give us the record hunting mode now please. It's time for normal players as well. Cheaters had avantage for years.
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Post by Jussi Koskela »

he10th3r310 wrote: 22 May 2022, 15:01 There is no way to delete records on my own sadly. Anyways 3560 is far from perfect, if I remember right about my practice jumps combined with my records, that tl would be about 3572-3573m so there is alot to do for someone who just has enough will
I pushed the red button for your records. Thanks for opening up.
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Post by he10th3r310 »

Thank you. I wanna say that I don't regret using cheats, but what I regret is using so much time for all this. And of course the flame war/insults/threats I did back then, it was completely unnecessary. So sorry for that. One important thing I learned from all this, is that everything has two sides. The less you have, the less you can lose. The more you have, the more you have to lose. If you wanna be the best, you have to accept that you're hunted by everyone and you either want to defend your position forever or give up and finally lose. Well you can also call that sport. At its finest and worst. Maybe I will make better decisions in my life after all this.

Anyways, good luck everyone. Have fun and jump long! 💪
DSJ2 Total Length: 5438,88m
DSJ3 Total Length: 7825,25m
DSJ4 Total Lenght: 3560,25m (offline)

Combined: 16824.38m

I'm a retired player. I won't jump more competitive jumps, but I will anyway support the game future development as I can.
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Post by Maciejo-96 »

Something has come to the end. Time for you to draw a line under your past. Honestly, I think this episode in your life shouldn't happened, but that was your choice and you were in charge of this. Now the most important thing for you is actual happiness and being successful in real life. Good luck!
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Post by he10th3r310 »

I don't completely agree with ''you use cheats you are nobody''. Maybe for this game, but in gaming world it's quite common to have ''tool assisted demos'', which are then just labeled under that category. The thing is DSJ does not have a good cheating detection system, while for example Doom has. I know this because I posted a cheated record there once and it took just a week for the community to find it out and they labeled that with ''TAS''. I know it's not same as ''official records'', but there should be own category for it too.
DSJ2 Total Length: 5438,88m
DSJ3 Total Length: 7825,25m
DSJ4 Total Lenght: 3560,25m (offline)

Combined: 16824.38m

I'm a retired player. I won't jump more competitive jumps, but I will anyway support the game future development as I can.
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Post by Xinitiao »

he10th3r310 wrote: 24 May 2022, 01:59 there should be own category for it too.
You can always start a new thread, like in DSJ2 ;) viewtopic.php?t=8116
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Re: Heikki Haikonen finally talks

Post by ruben30 »

In this game I do not see the point in using cheats, I prefer to have fun without having fun in this game without using cheats, but if you prefer, you can relax without it
Life is more fun if you play games.
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