blue strap in Bad Mitterndorf

[skiflyer11]

hi i know its just a small thing but just wanna tell jussi that the blue strap (P-Point)
is a bit too long at kulm
i know it has a different lengh form year to year this year it was about 15m long and in dsj it is 65m long

here is a pic

[Stigi]

Good point! I have never noticed that:D Maybe that will be fixed to v1.1

[Jussi Koskela]

Looks like I have misinterpreted the rules. I thought that the blue zone should be marked all the way to the P point, but the blue zone's length actually should be equal to HS-K. I'll fix this.

[Bartek Palewicz]

What the hell is P-point?!

[SuperAdo111]

P point is starting of that blue thing,Jussi you'll fix a hill to 215-216 distances?

[skiflyer11]

yes the blue strap do marks the p-point just the lengh of it was wrong

[TPo]

Looks like I have misinterpreted the rules. I thought that the blue zone should be marked all the way to the P point, but the blue zone's length actually should be equal to HS-K. I'll fix this.

I don't think there's a clear rule for that. In 2010 the blue line started at 150m: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E8NeVwO ... re=related
Also, in some hills like Oberstdorf, the red line stops before the HS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcM7bp_M ... re=related

[JakubJiroutek]

There is no rule about it. And the blue strap is changed every year.

[skiflyer11]

There is no rule about it. And the blue strap is changed every year.

but in planica it starts every year at 158m i think
except 2011, 2007 and 2006 in these years the blue straps started at the k-point weird

[Jussi Koskela]

Ok, not a rule, but a recommendation. See section 417.3 at:
http://www.fis-ski.com/data/document/icr_jp_2008.pdf

[Jussi Koskela]

What the hell is P-point?!

It's the point where the landing arc starts.

[skiflyer11]

so but where is the exactly p-point at kulm? and in dsj4?

[Jussi Koskela]

so but where is the exactly p-point at kulm? and in dsj4?

The P-point is at 120 meters in both. The only difference is the marking of the zones.

[skiflyer11]

so but where is the exactly p-point at kulm? and in dsj4?

The P-point is at 120 meters in both. The only difference is the marking of the zones.

where do you get all your hill datas?

[Jussi Koskela]

From the ski jumping centers.