Bad telemark points!

babb · Post by **babb** » 18 Mar 2008, 23:47

I only get 16!! Why can't i get better? I'm not doing something wrong!

Torsten · Post by **Torsten** » 20 Mar 2008, 11:38

Try to hit the left mouse-button only while you're landing ...

Bernhard Birkeland · Post by **Bernhard Birkeland** » 20 Mar 2008, 12:02

You also get worse points for telemark when you start the landing to late. You have to do like Schlierenzauer, he starts his telemark almost in mid air

Chabiker · Post by **Chabiker** » 20 Mar 2008, 17:06

TRy to do the telemark landing like it is described in the manual. And try to make it less wide by clicking one button and after about 1 sec 2nd button, and try to set the jumper as much horizontal to the ground as its possible. I am using this techinque and getting 18.5''s VERY RARELY. Usually they are 19.0's, 19.5's , and I also have plenty of only 20.0's replays.

P.S. Try to get ready position for landing when the jumper is about 3 - 8mm above the ground. I mean that the legs has to be in upright position and the skies has to be in line.
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dzamper · Post by **dzamper** » 21 Mar 2008, 14:13

I've found jump with 4 x 20.0. Should be usefull

Post by **Risto Salonen** » 15 Jan 2009, 19:23

While I was messing around in training in Russia I found something that might be a bug. If I just tapped the mouse buttons in the take-off I always got worse style points regardless of how good landing I did. Holding the buttons down longer produces a more effective take-off.

Post by **Jussi Koskela** » 15 Jan 2009, 22:31

Risto Salonen wrote:While I was messing around in training in Russia I found something that might be a bug. If I just tapped the mouse buttons in the take-off I always got worse style points regardless of how good landing I did.

The judges rate also the takeoff in DSJ3. You get the best scores if you click both mouse buttons exactly at the same time and keep them pressed until the ski jumper has straightened his legs.

Post by **Ralph K.** » 16 Jan 2009, 01:02

I've been always curious how does the "judge system" in DSJ work. Would you be so kind Jussi to explain it?

Thanks a lot for the answer.

onkelsmerte · Post by **onkelsmerte** » 16 Jan 2009, 01:36

1=badest
2=better than badest
3=Alit better than badest but still pretty bad
4= better than badest but still pretty bad
5=Awefully bad but better than better than badest but still pretty bad
6=Awefull but getting better than awefully bad but better than better than badest but still pretty bad
7=Robert Mateja???
8=Almost at the point of crap
9= Crap but still better tham almost at the point of crap
10=Ouch you suck!!!
11= LoL???
12=Almost good but still far away
13= KAMIKAZE!!!
14=Johan Erikson???
15= All bulgarian Jumpers
16= Simon Amman

:D
17= Decent
18=ok but still not that good but better then decent simon amman ;D;;D all bulgarian jumpers johanerikson Kamikaze and all other
19= Finaly getting somewhere ???? Great
20= Funaki , Loitzl, Espen bredesen
21= KEJ

JES · Post by **JES** » 16 Jan 2009, 02:14

FIS judges:

Post by **Jussi Koskela** » 16 Jan 2009, 21:03

Ralph K. wrote:I've been always curious how does the "judge system" in DSJ work. Would you be so kind Jussi to explain it?

The judges in DSJ3 give the style points based on the following criteria:

Takeoff: balance, duration, timing
Press both mouse buttons at the same time and keep them down until the end of the takeoff. Make sure that the timing is correct.

Flight: body angle, rotation, stability
Produce optimal flight trajectory by moving the mouse down. Excess body movement and change of rotation is penalized.

Landing: initial and final telemark width, landing depth, balance, crash
Initiate the telemark landing by pressing left/right mouse button. Finalize the telemark landing by pressing the other mouse button. It's crucial that the width of the telemark is correct at the time of ground contact.

Some randomness is added to each evaluation criteria to simulate human error in judging.

Post by **Ralph K.** » 28 Jan 2009, 18:16

Well, I didn't know that the system analyzes so many aspects of the jump

Thanks for the reply

kStar · Post by **kStar** » 15 Jan 2010, 12:45

I usually get 19,5's sometimes even 20's

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frog · Post by **frog** » 17 Jan 2010, 23:20

Yeah! 19.5 or 20

Krzysztof Stuchlik · Post by **Krzysztof Stuchlik** » 18 Jan 2010, 11:38

http://www.speedyshare.com/files/204056 ... _ideal.rpl
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/20405658/5x_20_geo.rpl
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/204056 ... marzen.rpl
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/204056 ... _style.rpl
http://www.speedyshare.com/files/20405657/5x_20_aut.rpl

For example style jumps

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