Lines after HS

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Re: Lines after HS

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greex1 wrote: Skiflyer - forgot the lines before the point K: P
yes but i think the lines after are more important :)
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Re: Lines after HS

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but...

as we see on real photo this lines are the same (the same lenght) but in dsj are getting longer......and longer...
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Re: Lines after HS

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skiflyer11 wrote:maybe this could be lillehammer :)

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How can you do this? I want to create lines on all hills like you :)
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Paint?
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Re: Lines after HS

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.slander.86 wrote:Paint?
Yep ;)
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Re: Lines after HS

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Thanks a lot :)
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Re: Lines after HS

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I collected today some information about the lines. Please correct me if you think something is wrong.

Hill		HS	Summer	Winter
Zakopane	94	55-90	40-95
Villach		98	75-95	70-110
Lahti		130	95-130	70-140
Sapporo		134	85-135	80-145
Lillehammer	138	80-145	90-150
Ga-Pa		140	100-145	75-145
Kuusamo		142	70-150	80-145
Bad Mitterndorf	200	N/A	120-210
Oberstdorf	213	N/A	130-230
Planica		215	N/A	110-240
The first question is if the range of lines should be different in summer/winter modes. Different ranges might make it difficult to estimate how far you are jumping. Some hills are also missing the lines after HS in the plastic covering.

The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.
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Re: Lines after HS

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nice looking forward to see this in the next version :)
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Re: Lines after HS

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Jussi Koskela wrote: Planica 110-240
well i was in planica like 3 years now (this year 4th). in 2009 lines began at 80m, 2010 - 90m, 2011 - 90m :P
Jussi Koskela wrote: The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.
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Re: Lines after HS

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The flying hills there is not lines? In summer.
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becuase they haven't got an ig..
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Re: Lines after HS

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Jussi Koskela wrote:I collected today some information about the lines. Please correct me if you think something is wrong.

Hill		HS	Summer	Winter
Zakopane	94	55-90	40-95
Villach		98	75-95	70-110
Lahti		130	95-130	70-140
Sapporo		134	85-135	80-145
Lillehammer	138	80-145	90-150
Ga-Pa		140	100-145	75-145
Kuusamo		142	70-150	80-145
Bad Mitterndorf	200	N/A	120-210
Oberstdorf	213	N/A	130-230
Planica		215	N/A	110-240
The first question is if the range of lines should be different in summer/winter modes. Different ranges might make it difficult to estimate how far you are jumping. Some hills are also missing the lines after HS in the plastic covering.

The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.
My idea:

Hill       Summer       Winter

Zakopane      55-90     40-95
Villach     75-95      70-110
Lahti     95-140      70-140
Sapporo      85-145      80-145
Lillehammer     80-150     90-150
Ga-Pa     100-145      75-145
Kuusamo      70-150      80-150
BM     100-220      120-220
Oberstdorf     100-235     130-235
Planica     100-240     110-240
In Oberstdorf and Villach how long jumps are possible?
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Re: Lines after HS

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greex1 wrote:
Jussi Koskela wrote:I collected today some information about the lines. Please correct me if you think something is wrong.

Hill		HS	Summer	Winter
Zakopane	94	55-90	40-95
Villach		98	75-95	70-110
Lahti		130	95-130	70-140
Sapporo		134	85-135	80-145
Lillehammer	138	80-145	90-150
Ga-Pa		140	100-145	75-145
Kuusamo		142	70-150	80-145
Bad Mitterndorf	200	N/A	120-210
Oberstdorf	213	N/A	130-230
Planica		215	N/A	110-240
The first question is if the range of lines should be different in summer/winter modes. Different ranges might make it difficult to estimate how far you are jumping. Some hills are also missing the lines after HS in the plastic covering.

The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.
My idea:

Hill Summer  Winter

Zakopane 55-90 40-95
Villach 75-95  70-110
Lahti 95-140  70-140
Sapporo 85-145 80-145
Lillehammer 80-150 90-150
Ga-Pa 100-145 75-145
Kuusamo 70-150 80-150
BM 100-220 120-220
Oberstdorf 100-235 130-235
Planica 100-240 110-240
In Oberstdorf and Villach how long jumps are possible?
I believe we will have to find that ourselves :)
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Re: Lines after HS

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greex

235 oberstdorf?? o.O

I think there is a possible jump max 230
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Re: Lines after HS

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Rajmek1233 wrote:greex

235 oberstdorf?? o.O

I think there is a possible jump max 230
:) I ask because in BM record is 215, and can jump 223
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