Ironwood hill

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Ironwood in dsj4?

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J.MIRO
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Ironwood hill

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History of ironwood:
The first ideas to built the largest jump of the world had the members of Gogebic Range Ski Club already in 1935, but it took 35 years to realize their thoughts. The ski flying hill opened in March 1970 is the largest ski jump on the American continent and is situated at Chippewa Hill in the western area of Michigan called Gogebic.
The name Copper Peak comes from the copper mining which began in this area at about 1884, but also iron was dug out as the city Ironwood shows. The inrun tower is made of 30 tons of steel and 73 meters high, that is the height of a 24 store building. On top of it there is a panorama platform which can be reached by an elevator and is 543.5 above sea level. On days with good view you can see around 60 km.
From 1970 to 1994 ten ski flying competitions took place and the last hill record was set up by the two Austrians M. Wallner and W. Schuster with 158 m in 1994.
1975 the ski club built three junior hills (K50, 30 and 10) at the side of Wolverine Hill for younger jumpers.
Of course also the ski flying hill was converted, as in 1980 when the outrun was lowered 3 m to make jumps on 180 m possible and in 1988 when the takeoff angle was changed on 12° according to the FIS rules.
Since 1994 Copper Peak which is the only ski flying hill in the western hemisphere, hasn’t been used and has no FIS certificate, only in summer tourists come to visit the hill.
But there are plans to reanimate the jump, so that world cup jumps again are possible on the K170-facility. Unfortunately the financial situation is not very good and there is no big public interest in ski flying at Copper Peak. The last World Cup event took place in 1994. If the jumps are revitalized, the landing hill will be adapted to modern standard and a new judges tower has to be build.

How are you thinking, what are K point?
K145 HS160
K160 HS175
K170 HS185
K-HS=15
I like this hill, hope, will be in dsj4.
I like, since majority hills have HS124-145.Boring!
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Re: Ironwood hill

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I'd rather have in-use hills than that one
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Re: Ironwood hill

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And what about adding all the hills of the world to the beta-3? It makes the same sense as adding hill on which jumpers can't jump anymore.
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Re: Ironwood hill

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This better than:
Ustronie K140 HS155 :wink:
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Re: Ironwood hill

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the k-point of the hill is at 160m but it has no HS because the hill were closed in 1996 i think 8 years before the HS were introduced

but if copper peak would be in dsj4 HS175 would be ok
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Re: Ironwood hill

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I also heard that because of reached here distances a K point of the around 170 m had been moved on 145. Since the record is 158 m, I think that better it would be as if it was K 145 HS 160. :)
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Re: Ironwood hill

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Maślana wrote:No. This hill is closed, better give Wisła-Malinka or Miyanomori ;)
get down :wink:
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Re: Ironwood hill

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Maślana wrote:No. This hill is closed, better give Wisła-Malinka or Miyanomori ;)
Look this:
Zakopane K120 HS134
Oslo K120 HS134
Sapporo K120 HS134
Liberec K120 HS134
Thunder Bay K120 HS134
Salt Lake City K120 HS134
Predazzo K120 HS134
Wisła K120 HS134
And?
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Re: Ironwood hill

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Or:
Garmish Partenkirchen K125 HS140
Bishofshofen K125 HS140
Yabuli K125 HS140
Amłaty K125 HS140
Whisler K125 HS140
Klingenthal K125 HS140
Krasnaja Polana K125 HS140
Erzurum K125 HS140
Pragelato K125 HS140
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Re: Ironwood hill

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As a matter of fact, if you don't want Ironwood in DSJ 4, how he will be like, then don't simply jump the one of this hill. :wink:
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Re: Ironwood hill

Post by kaka95 »

Good idea, this hill is diffrent than the others. K-Point should be 145m (becouse the longest jump is 158m) I think.
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Re: Ironwood hill

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i think this would be a great idea, it would be an awesome alternative to all those k 120 hills!
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Re: Ironwood hill

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Roman Fendt wrote:i think this would be a great idea, it would be an awesome alternative to all those k 120 hills!
Or K125 :wink:
look:
Kussamo K120 HS142
Zakopane K120 HS134
Hakuba K120 HS131
Strbske Pleso K120 HS125
Oberstorf K120 HS137
K points are the same, but HS can be different :D
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Re: Ironwood hill

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I think in DSJ4 full version, of course, will be
Zakopane HS 134,
GaPa,
Bischoschofen,
Salt Lake City,
Vancouver Whistler,
Liberec,
and
Trondheim
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Re: Ironwood hill

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mlody5 wrote:I think in DSJ4 full version, of course, will be
Zakopane HS 134,
GaPa,
Bischoschofen,
Salt Lake City,
Vancouver Whistler,
Liberec,
and
Trondheim
Beta3 or full version?
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