@Stepan Pfleger

[np2ij]

Why they(Jaluvka and Pfleger) can't join the server and show their skills? They waste a lot of time in offline, but they haven't 20 minutes to online? Replays are clear, but these guys are not clear...

Why do you think that offline and online are the same? It's like downhill and slalom in fact. I do not believe you are so naive you think that downhill specialist will dominate slalom as well. I do not believe you are so naive you can EVER think that join the server will prove anything.

Why nobody mentions my Zakopane WR is with jumper nr. 8 and wind isn't optimal at all?

WHY NOBODY MENTIONS NECHCIAL's WR in GA-PA THAT WIND DOESN'T CHAGE FROM 2.4/2.3 ALL THE TIME? WHY NOBODY CALLS HIM CHEATER, TOO???

Now I'm even called to explain why I has been uploaded only one hill in Polish forum by some anonymous user "DSJ4 The best" !! I can't believe my eyes!! Every ANONYMOUS person may insult my name anytime he could wish!! It's really a shame that in Polish forum even MODERATOR starts fights and when I accept their culture, I got a warning, but they may insult me as they wish. Jussi shame on you that you allow all these things!

[bulwa11]

wow you really turned everything around Josef. Good job
1. No one insulted you (that was heavily discussed)
2. You got a warning for calling another user "idiot"
3. There was no fight at all, just a discussion, questions for you and questions from you.

[Bjørn Andre Monsen]

i stop playing this game if it not been Online Records soon

[np2ij]

wow you really turned everything around Josef. Good job
1. No one insulted you (that was heavily discussed)
2. You got a warning for calling another user "idiot"
3. There was no fight at all, just a discussion, questions for you and questions from you.

Well, in your personal culture "cheater" is not an offence, I know. Still for some other Polish people it's a real offence like it's for me. For example, you maybe missed that post>

Areen PostPosted: 23 Jan 2012, 17:42
Nie żebym chciał jeszcze bardziej podsycać atmosferę, ale puki nie dacie namacalnych dowodów na to, że obaj Czesi są oszustami, to ich tak nie nazywajcie. Oszust to taka sama "obelga" jak idiota, nie widzę analogii, rozumowania i znajomości języka polskiego moderatorów. Nie obarczajmy się bezpodstawnymi oskarżeniami, Slavic power, guys i pozdrówki dla braci Czechów ;]

And yes, you started some fight when you wondered I didn't download version 1.0.1 maybe because cheating is possible in 1.0.0 (even you knew that only special characters were fixed in 1.0.1). You're a moderator, YOU SHALL NOT DO such things!

And by the way, I didn't call you an idiot, I asked you if you're an idiot or if you only play (pretend) that role. Even if'd call you an idiot directly, it'd be only accepting your culture as you (and most of your other Polish friends as well) instantly call me a cheater. So, no reason for giving me a warning at all!!!

[np2ij]

WHY NOBODY MENTIONS NECHCIAL's WR in GA-PA THAT WIND DOESN'T CHAGE FROM 2.4/2.3 ALL THE TIME? WHY NOBODY CALLS HIM CHEATER, TOO???

Because it was a good jump with awesome wind, ans he's one of the best online players.

Wow, what an "interesting" way of thinking! His replay is OK, because he's kind, he's Polish and he plays online, so he doesn't use slowmotion in offline for sure. What an interesting prove! LOL

Besides, this thread is not about you, unless you are the same person as Pfleger, which is entirely possible. We won't believe you anyway, because your cheating in DSJ3 was so obvious the playerbase already generated a hatred towards you and Pfleger. You have only yourself to blame for that. Please stop trying to ignite even more flame wars, just GTFO cheater.

Yes, it's a hatred towards me and Pfleger when envy people condemned two persons without any proof. It's a shame it's possible in civilized society.

[Kajek]

Josef, with due respect, I know that what the majority of Poles is writing is annoying you, but believe me, it is nothing in addition - what got Brykalski a scolding when had a discussion with us.

In that case explain us, with what way you achieved so good results in DSJ3, to DSJ4 at least I - I am not clinging, are quite real and in my opinion for the achievement playing neatly. But not in DSJ3.

[np2ij]

Josef, with due respect, I know that what the majority of Poles is writing is annoying you, but believe me, it is nothing in addition - what got Brykalski a scolding when had a discussion with us.

In that case explain us, with what way you achieved so good results in DSJ3, to DSJ4 at least I - I am not clinging, are quite real and in my opinion for the achievement playing neatly. But not in DSJ3.

Kajek, I know you're very polite person, still at some point somewhere in the past we decided to do not explain anything and to not publish our replays, because envy people never accept any prove. We made the only one exception... yes, because of Brykalski me and Stepan published one jump at youtube to prove that we really jump, that we didn't fake our lengths. That's all. We asked us for replays then... I answered it wouldn't prove anything... now you even have our replays by program feature and it's visible I was right there, our replays really wouldn't prove anything. I think Jussi only can check them inside to say if they're OK or not, but I'm afraid we can't do more for you. I'm not interesting in online playing, because offline is much more challenging for me, I may skip bad winds etc. Even if I'd attend online, it still wouldn't prove anything.

And regarding our training methods... I'm sorry, but I would never share know-how with such hateful community.

[Kajek]

But put yourself on our place, is us almost 1000 and each of us are achieving similar results just enough, and suddenly two people are being very much favoured. Later he's reaching third. All the time I am writing about DSJ3. In comparing to your results, we have distances Dejan Sitar which admitted to using the slowdown. I know the ones which in DSJ3 were a world lead from conversations and championships, and screwed records to the maximum one's, but in spite of it lost to you from a few up to a dozen or so metres - so for me a question is arising - AS? how it is possible to be still as better, establishing fully clean rivalries (without slowdown and other inventions).

[Muga]

ehh, guys... we don't have any proofs, so don't be such unpolite to them. Now we have the replays, even if we can't be sure if they are not cheating, we should be kind and show some respect. They're human beings, like we are. And with respect you'll always achieve much more Of course his recorda are suspicious. But we shouldn't judge people before we know the thruth. How would yu feel, if they'd call you a cheater and they wouldn't believe you? that isn't nice. Jussi should check the replays. We can't do anything at this moment, so just chill out and stop insulting

[lomzyniak92]

Josef, I think the best idea would be to see you play online how good you are. As of now you are cheater. I want to ser you playing online if you aint a cheater and you have MAN BALLS why dont you come and play online? Today there is online tournament only 30 minutes.

PS; It is at 19:00pm

[Austrian_Skijumpfan_94]

Josef don´t understand me false but it´s absolutely clear why people are so "unhappy" with Stepan and your records.
Because there are so low numbers at your wrs
I want to believe you and Stepan, but I can´t
I hope you understand me

greets

[DSJ4 The best]

Now I'm even called to explain why I has been uploaded only one hill in Polish forum by some anonymous user "DSJ4 The best" !! I can't believe my eyes!! Every ANONYMOUS person may insult my name anytime he could wish!! It's really a shame that in Polish forum even MODERATOR starts fights and when I accept their culture, I got a warning, but they may insult me as they wish. Jussi shame on you that you allow all these things!

This why you have only one record in DSJ 4.1.0?

[Torsten]

[...]And regarding our training methods... I'm sorry, but I would never share know-how with such hateful community.

Hey Josef!
There where 2 simple questions to Stepan. No answers so far ... but you are defending him without knowing the answers. Why?
I think because you know the answers! And you know it's against the rules. And as long as you and Stepan don't give any plausible answers there is no reason for stop blaming you for cheating.

And no, you are wrong if you say, you knew it would be senseless showing your replays. Because these 2 weird things (starting number 1 and perfect start timing) couldn't be seen without them.

Why do you think that offline and online are the same? It's like downhill and slalom in fact. I do not believe you are so naive you think that downhill specialist will dominate slalom as well. I do not believe you are so naive you can EVER think that join the server will prove anything.

You are wrong, Josef! Offline with SlowDown and online without SlowDown is "like downhill and slalom in fact". But online and offline without SlowDown isn't such a difference (for a good player ).
And that already is the answer for your next question:

WHY NOBODY MENTIONS NECHCIAL's WR in GA-PA THAT WIND DOESN'T CHAGE FROM 2.4/2.3 ALL THE TIME? WHY NOBODY CALLS HIM CHEATER, TOO???

Have a look at the online ratings. IMHO that would prove almost anything around Krzysztof ...

Why nobody mentions my Zakopane WR is with jumper nr. 8 and wind isn't optimal at all?

Oh, ok ... one question: Why is Zakopane your only uploaded hillrecord? Didn't you jump the other hills so far?

[myst3]

[+1] To join Club

[EyTschej]

For the record:
Online is where everyone can prove actual skill. I've done so in DSJ3 and was more than pleased to usually be top 20 in the competitions or even top 10. No Jaluvka or Pfleger have ever been in front of me. So as far as I'm concerned, I totally own Jaluvka and Pfleger - and so does everyone else who entered the world of Online DSJ and never had those guys in front of them. That's all that matters. I just can't seem to care about offline stuff ...