The best jumps in v.1.5
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Vik wrote:Does Karol Nowak know sth about v1.6??? Maybe all the good players of the past (Ryszard Cholewa, Boguslaw Cholewa, Drazen Feric, Roman Karwat, Karol Nowak, Dominik Machowiak, Matej Jeznik and much more...) would play too....
My opinion, majority know for 1.6. Jussi my congratulation for new version, but probably 1 year to late. I have checked this new version and what i see, after 14 month i'm good enougt to jump for WR point, not only once. The fact is, at the end of 1.5 was in SLO league 205 players, now i see in 1.6 (with me) only 39 names, POL League 1.5 at the end 416 names, now i see 69 names, hmm?! From my site Jussi you have for this new version 4 of 5 stars. Good is reset of all records. The last star you can catch if you will make the game for about 10-15% slower. For names like Ryszard Cholewa, Boguslaw Cholewa, Drazen Feric, Roman Karwat, Karol Nowak, Dominik Machowiak, Matej Jeznik and much more.. is not big problem to catch best point for jump by this speed. I can do this on 9 of 10 jumps (after 14 months without jumping), but the flying control is my opinion for realy good playability unsure. It is almost impossible to control "air-pillow" under body and ski, so the fly is similar like roulette. The names upstairs know what i mean. From that reason i'm pretty sure, majority of this names don't coming back.
In the "X-Speed- League" in the past there were not more than 120 players... (now 420 players) who had any chance of WR (because the most of them didn't know anything of speedtools, and a lot of them who knows, didn't want to play with it....)
I think the competition now is much better than in the past...
Currently 419 players uploaded their replays one week after release (maybe there play much more)... That's enough... I think... could be more, and there will be much more in future... of that I'm sure...
The Speed is not too fast... If the speed were slower, the potencial to reach the limit would be smaller than now... You have to concentrate much more with current gamespeed, and for me that's important for this game...
I think the competition now is much better than in the past...
Currently 419 players uploaded their replays one week after release (maybe there play much more)... That's enough... I think... could be more, and there will be much more in future... of that I'm sure...
The Speed is not too fast... If the speed were slower, the potencial to reach the limit would be smaller than now... You have to concentrate much more with current gamespeed, and for me that's important for this game...
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1. Who speak about x-speed tool?
2. You want to say, that all this names don't coming back, because can't jump WR without x-speed?
3. 419 players uploaded their replays because they all already have a key from the beginning, not like in 3.1 (must first by a key)!
4. ... If the speed were slower, the potencial to reach the limit would be smaller than now... can you explaine this? Without excellent concentration is also by a little slower game speed impossible to jump WR (and if you want also with x-speed tool)!
5. My discussion was just about better playability, not about WR, not about x-speed and not about competition. My estimation about playability was only comparison of all version of DSJ from 1 to 3.1.6 (with and without all speed tools over all versions)!
And at least Vik, have you forget that the names upstairs have suggest Jussi to reset all records in september 2006? And Jussi answere is on dsj.airco.com.pl (…but i still don't want…)! Auuu, yes this is history!
2. You want to say, that all this names don't coming back, because can't jump WR without x-speed?
3. 419 players uploaded their replays because they all already have a key from the beginning, not like in 3.1 (must first by a key)!
4. ... If the speed were slower, the potencial to reach the limit would be smaller than now... can you explaine this? Without excellent concentration is also by a little slower game speed impossible to jump WR (and if you want also with x-speed tool)!
5. My discussion was just about better playability, not about WR, not about x-speed and not about competition. My estimation about playability was only comparison of all version of DSJ from 1 to 3.1.6 (with and without all speed tools over all versions)!
And at least Vik, have you forget that the names upstairs have suggest Jussi to reset all records in september 2006? And Jussi answere is on dsj.airco.com.pl (…but i still don't want…)! Auuu, yes this is history!
September 2006 -> Sevo-style .... the time before no one of them wanted to reset the records (all done with XSpeed)Cvetko Stanisa wrote: And at least Vik, have you forget that the names upstairs have suggest Jussi to reset all records in september 2006? And Jussi answere is on dsj.airco.com.pl (…but i still don't want…)! Auuu, yes this is history!
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Facts about some known names:
Player name - place at the end of ver 1.5 (with speed tool) - present place in ver 1.6 (without speed tool)
AUT league:
Derler - 1. - 2.
GER League
Freund - 1. - 2.
Winkler - 2. - 5.
JPN League
Hashimoto - 1. - 1.
NOR League
Sektnan - 1. - 3.
POL League
Chimel - 3. - 7.
SLO League
Hajric - 1. - 2.
Grumerac - 9. - 3.
Slow or real speed, Sevo styl or real stil, where is difference? I see the same names on the top (except names which stoped to play)!
Player name - place at the end of ver 1.5 (with speed tool) - present place in ver 1.6 (without speed tool)
AUT league:
Derler - 1. - 2.
GER League
Freund - 1. - 2.
Winkler - 2. - 5.
JPN League
Hashimoto - 1. - 1.
NOR League
Sektnan - 1. - 3.
POL League
Chimel - 3. - 7.
SLO League
Hajric - 1. - 2.
Grumerac - 9. - 3.
Slow or real speed, Sevo styl or real stil, where is difference? I see the same names on the top (except names which stoped to play)!
In my point of view now the speed is correct. If it's too fast for you, then it's your opinion and you don't have to play...
Last time I wrote that there were 419 players in Total length list in v1.6 , now there are 437, and the number will increase.... There are enough players, so it doesn't matter if you would play or not... But you have to know, that the competition is now fairer than ever....
Last time I wrote that there were 419 players in Total length list in v1.6 , now there are 437, and the number will increase.... There are enough players, so it doesn't matter if you would play or not... But you have to know, that the competition is now fairer than ever....
totally agree with you Vik
Cvetko are you against DSJ with normal speed? Then this forum is not for you, beacuse we don't need your opinion and we don't need you in the game. So I strongly advice you to stop complaining and to start jumping with normal speed.."x -speed times" has gone for ever.. I hope so. As Vik wrote currently the jumping is fair and the chances to get good score are equal for all players.
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Cvetko are you against DSJ with normal speed? Then this forum is not for you, beacuse we don't need your opinion and we don't need you in the game. So I strongly advice you to stop complaining and to start jumping with normal speed.."x -speed times" has gone for ever.. I hope so. As Vik wrote currently the jumping is fair and the chances to get good score are equal for all players.
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[quote="Vik"]In my point of view now the speed is correct. If it's too fast for you, then it's your opinion and you don't have to play...
Yes, agree with you, but not to fast for me. After 8 years i'm one of the last dinosaures in DSJ, actually i need something more for new motivation. Except reset of records i see no difference beetween 1.5 to 1.6, Jussi have declare this before (no big changes). Next year comes probably new version, maybe then again. I wish you lot of WR and enjoy. Was nice discuss with you after long time, really hope not last time. Maybe we see us in the near future "in the air" again!
Yes, agree with you, but not to fast for me. After 8 years i'm one of the last dinosaures in DSJ, actually i need something more for new motivation. Except reset of records i see no difference beetween 1.5 to 1.6, Jussi have declare this before (no big changes). Next year comes probably new version, maybe then again. I wish you lot of WR and enjoy. Was nice discuss with you after long time, really hope not last time. Maybe we see us in the near future "in the air" again!
What exactly do you waiting for? I really don't know what Jussi has to change that you will play? There is big difference between 1.5 and 1.6:
- Same winds in Online Competition (now it's possible to see, who is really good)
- uploading replays in older versions are not possible any more...
- Same Gamespeed on all Computers. (maybe this was already in v1.5)
Someone meant, it was possible to use XSpeed with Win98, but I think that's a rumor...
- Same winds in Online Competition (now it's possible to see, who is really good)
- uploading replays in older versions are not possible any more...
- Same Gamespeed on all Computers. (maybe this was already in v1.5)
Someone meant, it was possible to use XSpeed with Win98, but I think that's a rumor...
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Chabiker wrote:totally agree with you Vik
Cvetko are you against DSJ with normal speed? Then this forum is not for you, beacuse we don't need your opinion and we don't need you in the game. So I strongly advice you to stop complaining and to start jumping with normal speed.."x -speed times" has gone for ever.. I hope so. As Vik wrote currently the jumping is fair and the chances to get good score are equal for all players.
Chabiker thanks to open me my eyes! Here i have made small analysis just for you:
Hill, C.S. ver (1.5) my results with slowdown and without Sevo stil (i have never jump with Sevo stil), then D.S., S.P., A.S. (all 1.6) - present results after 2 weeks of 3 best players in Cup Scores (ver 1.6), WR (1.6) - present world records and at least place of my jump at the end of 1.5
C.S. (1.5) D.S. S.P. A.S. WR (1.6) C.S. (1.5) Norway HS138 142.46m 139.86m 139.72m 139.81m 140.31m 25. Finland HS218 229.11m 228.73m 225.53m 225.91m 228.73m 17. Czech HS192 204.23m 201.03m 200.75m 198.25m 201.72m 19. Japan HS248 278.19m 277.76m 275.06m 273.55m 277.76m 29. Italy HS146 150.33m 148.24m 148.76m 148.27m 148.76m 16. Russia HS223 235.99m 232.80m 232.51m 233.05m 233.74m 24. Svk HS180 193.02m 190.04m 188.66m 188.72m 192.76m 25. Austria HS197 209.78m 208.00m 208.09m 204.96m 208.09m 26. Canada HS107 115.68m 113.89m 112.56m 113.25m 113.89m 13. Poland HS269 292.82m 288.17m 289.76m 287.47m 289.76m 26. CH HS157 165.45m 162.68m 162.50m 162.20m 163.78m 10. Sweden HS121 127.16m 125.06m 123.57m 125.65m 125.65m 24. Germany HS261 286.40m 279.49m 281.04m 279.38m 281.04m 23. USA HS171 177.93m 175.65m 173.82m 174.43m 176.15m 25. France HS235 250.62m 245.92m 248.58m 246.83m 250.02m 23. SLO HS281 319.32m 314.98m 313.66m 316.88m 318.95m 33. Estonia HS185 198.63m 193.11m 195.82m 193.81m 197.13m 14. Romania HS228 245.77m 241.43m 240.53m 244.07m 244.07m 18. Denmark HS93 97.68m 96.82m 96.25m 96.06m 97.04m 19. Ukraine HS203 213.45m 213.03m 209.59m 208.89m 213.03m 11. Belgium HS126 136.14m 134.25m 133.23m 134.09m 134.75m 19. UK HS85 90.89m 89.23m 88.65m 89.43m 89.43m 16. Kazak HS164 172.92m 170.19m 170.81m 170.13m 172.56m 19. Bulgar HS258 283.23m 280.01m 279.23m 279.39m 280.34m 20. Korea HS174 185.13m 179.12m 178.94m 182.07m 182.07m 10. NL HS100 106.73m 105.62m 103.69m 104.03m 105.62m 7. Spain HS242 259.82m 254.28m 256.75m 255.51m 259.69m 20. Austr. HS149 156.67m 153.34m 154.71m 152.72m 154.71m 13. China HS252 273.83m 272.24m 269.91m 270.60m 272.87m 31. Belarus HS214 231.13m 228.57m 230.49m 229.35m 232.02m 26. Hungary HS117 121.64m 120.24m 119.62m 120.82m 120.94m 24. Croatia HS278 309.04m 309.05m 309.16m 305.77m 309.16m 31.Agree with you, with or without x-speed, no difference. In only 2 weeks players jump by normal mode the same results like i with x-speed in more then 1 year. Actually is better to play by normal mode, it's fair and easy to jump good result. Just in 2 weeks 9 times +/- 0,5 m of my results in ver 1.5 and once over, and all my jumps was at the end of 1.5 still on TOP 30 in WR Cup (with speed tool, no sevo stil)! By the way Vik, Sevo, Torsten, Ermel, Audun, Jakub, Dejan and at least you Chabiker just want to hear your your best jumps in ver 1.5 without x-speed, by normal mode. And at least where was all this good players in ver. 1.5?
Chabiker = Jakub Kara? I was growing up in the 1.5 version times but had some good results
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@Cvetko: With XSpeed the total length best was (without Sevostyle) about 6550m by Drazen Feric/Roman Karwat... Currently best total length about 6370m (near 200m difference...) And the time you need for doing new record is now much longer than in XSpeed-Times... I had a talk with Drazen Feric, and he told me, that he needed about 20 min. to jump 167.39m.... Please ask Dejan Sitar, how long he plays on a hill to make there a new hill record!!!
It's not good to compare currently records with your old Xspeed records, because you wasn't one of the best player in past, although you played with XSpeed....
It's not good to compare currently records with your old Xspeed records, because you wasn't one of the best player in past, although you played with XSpeed....
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[It's not good to compare currently records with your old Xspeed records, because you wasn't one of the best player in past, although you played with XSpeed....[/quote]
Hmm, wrong! Before i stop to play i was stil not one of the best players but good enough for 11. place on WR, before coming sevo stil! I have all replays without sevo stil at home and i can make the same comparition also with this results if you want, but any of this jumps is 2 m longer like my! And don't Forget Drazen result with 6550m is also with some jumps with sevo stil! Ask him if you don't belive me.
Hmm, wrong! Before i stop to play i was stil not one of the best players but good enough for 11. place on WR, before coming sevo stil! I have all replays without sevo stil at home and i can make the same comparition also with this results if you want, but any of this jumps is 2 m longer like my! And don't Forget Drazen result with 6550m is also with some jumps with sevo stil! Ask him if you don't belive me.